{"id":8867,"date":"2018-12-03T16:43:32","date_gmt":"2018-12-03T15:43:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/?p=8867"},"modified":"2019-06-07T16:21:11","modified_gmt":"2019-06-07T14:21:11","slug":"questions-frequentes-sur-les-complementaires","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/pedicurepodologue\/blog\/2018\/12\/03\/questions-frequentes-sur-les-complementaires\/","title":{"rendered":"Questions fr\u00e9quentes sur les compl\u00e9mentaires !"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Cet article permet de vous aider \u00e0 contr\u00f4ler ce qu&rsquo;il faut v\u00e9rifier en cas de probl\u00e8me de facturation avec une compl\u00e9mentaire.<\/p>\n<p>Comme vous devez le savez d\u00e9j\u00e0, il existe 2 types de compl\u00e9mentaires, la gestion unique et la gestion s\u00e9par\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Dans les 2 cas l&rsquo;appel de la table des conventions est demand\u00e9. Pour une gestion unique, le logiciel va rechercher la convention de type \u00ab\u00a0<em><strong>RO<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0\u00bb correspondant \u00e0 la caisse du patient, pour une gestion s\u00e9par\u00e9e, il va v\u00e9rifier le num\u00e9ro AMC et rechercher une convention diff\u00e9rente de \u00ab\u00a0<em><strong>RO<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0\u00bb (<em><strong>AL<\/strong> = Almerys, <strong>SP<\/strong> = Sant\u00e9 Pharma ..<\/em>.).<\/p>\n<p>En cas de gestion unique, la part mutuelle est envoy\u00e9 \u00e0 la s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale du patient qui doit ensuite soit la r\u00e9gler en cas d&rsquo;accord soit la transf\u00e9rer \u00e0 l&rsquo;organisme payeur compl\u00e9mentaire. L&rsquo;inconv\u00e9nient de cette m\u00e9thode est que Topaze n&rsquo;obtient pas de r\u00e9ponse <strong>NOEMIE<\/strong> concernant le paiement ou le rejet mutuelle, il faut donc que vous effectuez le contr\u00f4le de votre c\u00f4t\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>En cas de gestion s\u00e9par\u00e9e, si vous \u00eates conventionn\u00e9 (<strong>DRE<\/strong>) alors les retours de paiements ou de rejets sont affich\u00e9s dans Topaze permettant un meilleur contr\u00f4le de vos factures.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Voyons maintenant les difficult\u00e9s que vous pouvez rencontrer lors de la facturation si un param\u00e8tre est mal renseign\u00e9 dans Topaze :<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">\u00ab\u00a0Aucune convention applicable\u00a0\u00bb lors de la facturation<\/span><\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">V\u00e9rifier en tout premier que l&rsquo;ordonnance soit bien enregistr\u00e9e avec l&rsquo;assurance en \u00ab\u00a0<strong>Maladie<\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb et un tiers payant en \u00ab\u00a0<strong>C+M<\/strong>\u00ab\u00a0.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Assu_TP.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Assu_TP.png\" alt=\"Assu_TP\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u00a0Si le premier point de contr\u00f4le est correct alors veuillez refaire la recherche de la compl\u00e9mentaire dans la fiche patient \u00e0 l&rsquo;aide du bouton \u00ab\u00a0<strong>Assistant DRE<\/strong>\u00ab\u00a0.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Assistant_DRE.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8899\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Assistant_DRE.png\" alt=\"Assistant_DRE\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">En dernier si cela ne marche toujours pas, alors veuillez effectuer le rechargement des tables de conventions et regroupements en vous rendant dans l&rsquo;univers \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Fichiers<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb onglet \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Tables<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb et les sous onglets \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Conventions<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb et \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Regroupements<\/em><\/strong>\u00ab\u00a0.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Table_conv.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Table_conv.png\" alt=\"Table_conv\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>\u00ab\u00a0P\u00e9riodes de couverture non ouvertes\u00a0\u00bb lors de la facturation<\/strong><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">Dans certains cas la p\u00e9riode de validit\u00e9 de la compl\u00e9mentaire doit \u00eatre renseign\u00e9, pour cela veuillez cliquer sur le bouton \u00ab\u00a0<em><strong>P\u00e9riodes<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0\u00bb de la fiche patient afin de renseigner la date de d\u00e9but et de fin de la compl\u00e9mentaire.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">Pour information cette p\u00e9riode doit prendre en compte la date de prescription jusqu\u2019\u00e0 la date de fin du dernier acte.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Periodes.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8902\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Periodes.png\" alt=\"Periodes\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li><strong>M\u00eame probl\u00e8me de p\u00e9riode de couverture alors que les dates de validit\u00e9 correspondent bien !<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 90px;\">Pour une CMU sortante ou une Tpi ACS, il faut obligatoirement laisser CMU de cocher dans la fiche patient et de cliquer sur le mot \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Organisme<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb pour choisir la compl\u00e9mentaire du patient.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 90px; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Complementaire.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8903\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Complementaire.png\" alt=\"Complementaire\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>\u00ab\u00a0Erreur STS\u00a0\u00bb lors de la facturation<\/strong><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Plusieurs cas identifi\u00e9s:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li>Il se peut que malgr\u00e9 tous les contr\u00f4les effectu\u00e9s vous n&rsquo;arriviez pas \u00e0 facturer avec comme message \u00ab\u00a0Erreur STS&#8230;\u00a0\u00bb Dans ce cas il faut v\u00e9rifier que la fiche mutuelle ou AMC corresponde au mode de gestion.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 90px;\">Pour une fiche compl\u00e9mentaire coch\u00e9e en \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Mutuelle<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb il faut que le bouton \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Infos compl.<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb affiche \u00ab\u00a0<em><strong>Gestion unique<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0\u00bb et \u00e0 l&rsquo;inverse si c&rsquo;est coch\u00e9e sur \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>AMC<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb alors le bouton \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Infos\u00a0 Compl.<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb doit afficher \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Gestion s\u00e9par\u00e9e<\/em><\/strong>\u00ab\u00a0.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 90px; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/fiche_mut.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8905\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/fiche_mut.png\" alt=\"fiche_mut\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/info_compl.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-8907\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/info_compl.png\" alt=\"info_compl\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li>Le param\u00e9trage du PMSS est \u00e0 0.00\u20ac dans l&rsquo;univers \u00ab\u00a0<em><strong>Fichiers<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0\u00bb onglet \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Actes<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u00bb sous onglets \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Tarifs<\/em><\/strong>\u00ab\u00a0, le remettre \u00e0 3311\u20ac.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/PMSS.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8909\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/PMSS.png\" alt=\"PMSS\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li style=\"list-style-type: none;\">\n<ul>\n<li>Le justificatif de la compl\u00e9mentaire sur la fiche patient est sur (3), le mettre \u00e0 (2).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Justificatif.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8910\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Justificatif.png\" alt=\"Justificatif\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>La compl\u00e9mentaire rejette la facture DRE pour cause de patient ou b\u00e9n\u00e9ficiaire inconnu&#8230;<\/strong><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">Dans certains cas la compl\u00e9mentaire est orient\u00e9e sur 2 conventions diff\u00e9rentes, et vous avez malencontreusement s\u00e9lectionn\u00e9 la mauvaise. Pour la prochaine facturation nous vous invitons \u00e0 d\u00e9cocher le choix automatique des conventions se trouvant dans l&rsquo;univers \u00ab\u00a0<em><strong>Param\u00e9trage<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0\u00bb onglet \u00ab\u00a0<em><strong>T\u00e9l\u00e9transmission<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0\u00bb sous onglets \u00ab\u00a0<strong><em>Sesam-Vitale<\/em><\/strong>\u00ab\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px; text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Choix_auto_Conv.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8912\" src=\"https:\/\/www.journal.topaze.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/14\/2018\/11\/Choix_auto_Conv.png\" alt=\"Choix_auto_Conv\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Pour tout autre cas nous vous invitons \u00e0 contacter le service technique afin de pousser l&rsquo;investigation plus loin !<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cet article permet de vous aider \u00e0 contr\u00f4ler ce qu&rsquo;il faut v\u00e9rifier en cas de probl\u00e8me de facturation avec une compl\u00e9mentaire. 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